The Bloomington Police department has held its cards close to the vest.
For the sake of the integrity of the investigation into missing Indiana University student Lauren Spierer, little information has been made public. But after six weeks, the public is clamoring for something, if not about the investigation itself, at least about the BPD’s tactics.
After an article appeared in the Bloomington Herald Times last week, revealing that landfills have not been searched in the Spierer case, the quiet rumblings of police criticism have turned into a full-court press against the BPD. The department’s Facebook page has been deluged with dozens of posts criticizing BPD for not conducting a landfill search.
Roy Spierer writes on the BPD Facebook page:
Others are not so kind. Michael Meyer writes:
In this comment, Tammy Dennington Wike makes a comparison to the work done by the New York City Police Department in the murder of 8-year-old Lieby Kletzky:
In the Kletsky case, 48 hours after the boy had been reported missing, the New York City Police Department had found the boys remains, arrested a suspect in his murder and held a news conference – the commissioner, Ray Kelly, at the podium. In a glaring difference in the way the BPD operates — NYPD released videotape. One day after his disappearance, images of a happy-go-lucky Lieby Kletzky, walking home from camp, were on local TV news and feverishly being sent around the Internet. As difficult as it was to watch, everyone knew that Lieby had become lost and followed an unknown man with a beard, wearing black pants and a white shirt.
In the Spierer case, the Bloomington Police Department says it has been poring through hundreds of hours of video. They say they have multiple images of Spierer walking in and out of frames – with a man. Not one piece of video has been released to the public. The most vital video image, according to police, is Spierer with a man in an alley just before 3 am. Not only will police not release the video, they will not identify to the public the man in the video, even though they know who it is.
The only other video evidence in the Spierer case that is known to the public is footage that captured a physical confrontation involving a group of young men at Spierer’s apartment building. The only reason that is still not a secret, is that Spierer’s father, Robert, described its contents to reporters early on in the investigation. He has not commented on any evidence since then.
Video evidence notwithstanding, Capt. Joe Qualters, the BPD’s chief spokesman, is quoted in the Herald Times article saying that a landfill search would be “very labor-intensive” and a “potentially costly endeavor”. He says he’s never heard of a landfill search in all the years he’s been with the department.
BPD may have good reason not to search the landfill. Perhaps they hold information that tells them that such a search would be useless. But what police refuse to explain is why they continue to deliver confusing and contradictory information to the media, the people whom they are sworn to serve, and to anybody interested in what happened to Lauren Spierer.
Capt. Qualters, in stating that landfills have not been searched, is in direct contradiction to statements made earlier by BPD’s investigative chief, Lt. Bill Parker, who said during a news briefing that both dumpsters and landfills had, indeed, been searched.
It’s this type of contradiction, a muddying of the few facts that have been made public, that can account for the vitriol against the BPD on its Facebook page. We could not find one comment that was positive.
BPD’s last Facebook post was on July 11 to honor a fallen officer in Terra Haute, and an update on a police dog who was injured. Also on July 11, the BPD posted congratulations to a group of graduating police cadets. The next most recent entry dates back to June 25, a post about the search for Spierer.
Bloomington police have made themselves abundantly clear. They do not have to release any information — period. Nor do they feel obligated to correct or clarify statements they have made, no matter how loud the outcry from the citizenry. Said one Bloomington resident, “That’s just the way it’s done in B-Town.”
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good article Tony> Keep up the good work!
Keep up the good work Tony.
Glad to see you’re still on this one!
#123 at WS
My guess is she’s far far away. Much father than Btown, Martinsville, Indianapolis.
- Once she got to Smallwood, LS informed someone (unnamed) that she was going to a well-known dealer’s house to get more cocaine. That was the last time this particular group saw her.
- It’s suspected by this group of people that LS got drugs from this dealer, the dealer let her stay in his place, he passed out, and when he woke up she was dead from an OD, and her body was subsequently dumped.
Most integral part of the post……”My guess…”
Teehee
If you’ve got names, name them – at least to the anonymous tip line. Name of the dealer, names in this “particular group” you’ve mentioned, etc. Be a citizen, not a speculator.
Looks like mention of a ping to JR’s phone at 4:00 a.m. on June 3rd in Martinsville are being scrubbed from several sites…
why would that be? why dont they want people to know??
Do you have a link to that conversation? Also, Martinsville is a good 25 mile hike, north of Bloom.
The police would have that info if they pulled phone records. Emphasis on IF. They would know who called who. But let’s say someone did. JR or his friend can just say, “yeah, (they) called to let him know they were OK driving back.” Could be a fat lie but there’s no crime there. Could be suspicious but since they all have attorneys and have money, they don’t have to talk. So the police don’t have anything substantial with that.
Great job. Excellent tone and balance. You put on pressure without going ballistic.
Thanks. I really am fair and balanced. Really.
Releasing video footage can also let those who have chosen to remain silent see what may turn out to be contradictory info to what they believe. What were previously locked down stories may suddenly be suspicious to them.
Police have to act, to keep the case fresh.
“Police have to act, to keep the case fresh.”
They seem to have a different take on the matter…
Great article, TG.
I was thinking the same thing about the LK case. Maybe NY’s finest are just better equipped and more seasoned investigators than the BPD. But, it does seem concerning how BPD totally failed wity handling the public and media. There’s a lot of conjecture out there – some could be potentially damaging, especially if there are POIs that BPD has cleared but that all of us are still speculating about.
I saw on WS that a person claims to have heard the pinging info from a B-town fireman. There is also another source posting on the pinging. Both claims say the pinging came from the last POI to see her alive.
I can understand that BPD is a small police force. There’s nothing wrong with asking for help. State police? FBI?
The National Guards have come in before and helped with searches like this. It’s not an impossible task, it’s very do-able with the ‘will’ to do it. Unless BPD have reason to believe she is “not” there- and alive….
If we are to believe the local media that the FBI was involved in this case rather early on, it is baffling why the search by BPD seems so lackadaisical, for lack of a better word. Wouldn’t the FBI point out to BPD that searching the landfill would be one of the first things to do? Something doesn’t add up here.
Thank you so much, Tony, for still posting about this case. It shouldn’t be allowed to be shoved under the rug. I love my hometown, and I hate how the apparent incompetence is making us look.
The FBI was only involved in the most basic of assistance — such as — fielding the high volume of calls that was expected after America’s Most Wanted.
I believe it has been stated that the FBI is providing technical assistance with tracking phone usage and computer usage by the POIs. Is there really a reason to believe the BPD is not accepting all the help the FBI might provide? The FBI was very prominent in the investigation of Jill Behrman’s disappearance, to no avail.
Bloomington is different from New York. Murder victims are usually dumped in farmer’s fields and wooded areas, not trash dumpsters. Jill Behrman was found by hunters in a remote wooded area in the late fall, three years after she disappeared. There is more risk of detection by using a dumpster in Bloomington, than driving out of town to a wooded area where the vegetation is thick in the summer.
HELL YES TONY GATTO!!!! YOU ARE THE MAN!! Thank you for reporting what OTHERS won’t and for being vigilant in searching for the truth!
I think you need to manage expectations when comparing a small city police unit to the NYPD but gee – the obvious is obvious re: the landfill.
Roy Spierer’s Email to WTHR Staff Jeremy;
Jeremy,
I don’t know if you remember me, I am a cousin of Lauren Spierer’s from NJ. You had interviewed me on the final day of the public searches in Bloomington. I have kept up with the progress of finding Lauren from NJ. I have been reading disturbing news about the Bloomington PD not wanting to search the local landfill for clues that may be there. According to the landfill management staff, it would not be that difficult to isolate the Bloomington trash from that time period.
I was wondering if you could do a story on this pleading with the BPD to perform this search. I have also been checking out this Facebook Page: “Lauren Spierer: Case Discussion” and speaking with some very passionate and caring people that would raise money if needed to have the BPD perform this landfill search. Please, Please I would like your thoughts on this important matter in trying to find our cousin Lauren.
Thank You,
Roy Spierer
Have they seriously not checked the landfill? i heard this but it is so hard to believe. i am a neighbor of the family and would absolutely contribute to the search. what are the reasons they give for NOT searching?
Lt Parker said they already searched it. No need to do it twice…
Excellent writing Mr. G. As a Hoosier; I can tell you that 99% of the local citizens would never question the local PD for fear of retribution. It happens all the time.
My take is that BPD is in over their heads. We can speculate all we want as to the reasons they are. I had this feeling from the start of the investigation that information was being sent out to the public in a very odd way. Almost like intentional misinforming. The landfill was searched or no? The truck was at 4;30 or the camera times were wrong? The purse was missing or not? We found a purse but it’s from a different woman murdered days before? WTX?
Probably the thing that disturbs me most is the tape of the ZO punchout. Then the statement that they have it on tape but LS wasn’t involved. Wasn’t involved? Yeah, I figured a 4’10″ 95lb girl didn’t punch CR. She was involved big time. The fight was totally because of what was going on in LS’s life at that time it seems. And all the BPD can say was that LS was not involved. It’s clear that BPD wants this case and anyone with any questions to just go away.
If they want the public to help them solve the case, they also need to ask people specific questions to think about. For example, I have not read anywhere that the BPD has put this question to the general public: ‘Have any of you—particularly female residents around LS’s age—been approached by anyone in a car or truck who attempted to pick you up, after you were walking home late from the bars or after the bars close? What did the man/car/truck look like?’
The stranger abduction scenario only makes sense to me if the person involved was deliberately hunting; and it’s at least probable that such a person was not a first time hunter in town. (We don’t have to be talking about a serial killer here; it could be a rapist who preys on obviously drunk-looking girls who grabbed Lauren and in whose presence she subsequently died). But just saying at the beginning of the investigation, ‘yeah, folks, anything you can think of we’d really appreciate—we’re stumped’ isn’t really going to GET PEOPLE THINKING.
I’m not nececcarily “on the bandwagon” with calling out the BPD. understand why t he BPD has kept a lot of information close to their vests. But, when that happens…inquiring minds tend to inquire about the many “Things that make you go Hmmmmm”.
If the major issues in the way of a landfill search are effort and cost…. A.) Methinks it would have been MUCH less laborious a month ago..when said trash was on top!, and B.) I wonder if they approached the Spierers to ask if they wanted to food the bill? There IS a donation fund to “find lauren”. Yes, I’m sure it paid to print flyers, and might be paying for some of the other professional searchers (? I don’t know their policies?). But..is there some left? Is there none left? Perhaps some of the deep pocketed families of some of the (“innocent”) “friends” might chip in to help clear their son’s name. Or…maybe the numbers just don’t make it worthwhile. If it’s rare that a body makes it all the way to a landfill, and rarer still if one is then DISCOVERED there…perhaps they think there are way to spend their time/money that would produce a larger percentage of results.
Or…as we’ve wondered all along…they are pretty sure who it was and maybe they have very strong reason to believe they know she is in a particular area, or far far away, or ???
Who knows!? Sure would like to see a break soon. My child heads back to Btown quite soon and, without knowing “who done it”…I hate to think my child will attend class with these kids.
What the fuck is pinging?
Maybe if you didn’t use the word fuck so easily, you’d know what pinging is. Also, have you heard of Google? Or are you too fucking busy?
Hilarious, Tony!
Excellent reply Tony!!!!
It’s a way to ring a phone without sending a message on blackberries.
If the BPD know the identity of the person with Lauren in the video footage, what’s the point of making releasing it to the public? To satisfy the morbid curiosity of amateur sleuths with too much free time on their hands?
Point well taken. Do you approve of the BPD tactics, overall?
I have no problem with their withholding info from the public, but I think they blew the case from the outset. They were too deferential to the POIs IMO.
I hear ya.
Oh the horror these poor, poor parents are being put through. This whole time they have stressed how much they trusted the police and how much the police have been doing for them. It’s got to be hard to keep trusting when your own family (their cousin) is even questioning the police’s actions.
God grant them serenity…
Tony, Thanks for quoting me. Yeah the Bloomington PD could afford to take some lessons from the NYPD and even further. Remember Lieby Kletzky went missing and the family called the Hasidic neighborhood search team “the Shomers” before calling the NYPD. The NYPD were not notified until 25 minutes after the shomers. I can tell you now, the Bloomington PD are no NYPD and certainly not anything like the small Hasidic group of Shomers.
Mr. Spierer,
Are Lauren’s parents satisfied with the investigation? Will you comment on that aspect of it, please?
I can’t say for sure since I havn’t been in touch with them since leaving Bloomington after the final search.
I have been very disturbed by the relative silence of The City of Bloomington officials – Indiana University and the BPD. My daughter was planning on going to IU, but now I won’t allow her to. Granted Bloomington is overall a very safe community BUT when something does go wrong you cannot count on those in power to care. Their indifference is disgusting and I do not want my daughter to be in such an environment.
I wonder how many other parents feel just like this, and if the university wanted less publicity in the matter, hence the silence. I realize this poster said he/she is not allowing daughter to attend IU because of the lack of info, but not sure the university would see it this way.
I will bet that when school starts in Bloomington and these kids come back it’s gona start to hit the fan.Info and gossip will be pouring out all over the place..It will also be interesting to see who DOESN’T come back to school..
When is the first day of classes?
August 29 is the first day of classes.
Seem like a good time to be back in Bloomington. But that is family vacation week.
August 18 is orientation. Already there are kids and parents walking around checking Bloomington out. I’ve never had issues with the BPD – but the moment the POI’s left Indiana… couldn’t the FBI handle the case better?
Searching the landfill is a good idea at least in order to rule it out…unless BPD knows something. Lack of transparency is a bit offensive to a community that has come out in droves to search.
You hit the nail on the head. Lack of transparency.
The first day of classes is Monday, August 29 for the fall semester.
I agree that it will be difficult for those students to return to campus. The university community is very upset by the appearance of a lack of cooperation and moral conscience by the POIs in this case. They may be following sound legal advice considering their drug use that night, but their moral decision to not cooperate is not going to sit well with faculty or other students.
Anybody like to a venture guesses into who will and who will not come back? I’ll place a bet on CR — that he returns — cause he has nothing to hide.
“… to a community that has come out in droves to search … “. That’s a very good point, BPD. If the police did indeed have an idea who the perp is or what transpired and they are just holding info close to their vests in order to gather more info or flush the perp out, then why ask the public to engage in such massive searches – for a month? Why are the parents also still handing out flyers? These are not indications that the police have a good handle on the investigation.
Good points.
I can’t imagine that any of these kids will be back in Bloomington. Why would they?
We know that it took BPD a month to get around to questioning the local registered sex offenders and we are now about 7 weeks in and they haven’t searched the landfill. Many of the POIs lawyered up and left town many weeks ago. The BPD officials I have seen speaking at press conferences seem to be kind, decent people and I’m sure the Spierer’s are most likely not in any kind of emotional state to really take them to task. That leaves the Mayor of B-town, Chancellor of IU, and maybe the Guv to start cracking heads and get the right people or resources needed to solve this thing. The local press did not do their job in asking tough questions early on of either BPD or POIs so we are now at this impasse. If I had a daughter returning to IU this Fall the BPD would be hearing from me everyday. If I had a daughter about to begin at IU, I would try to direct her elsewhere.
I will admit. All the BPD folks I met are good people. Capt. Qualters is — what we would call in Brooklyn — a mensch.
Yeah, he strikes me as good people too but he appears to be running a lousy investigation. Here in Chicago, new Police Chief McCarthy on his first day on the job was on the hotseat due to ‘flash mob’ activity and using a phony cover story (concerns about heat exhaustion on an 87 degree day) to close public beaches. Chief McCarthy & Mayor Emmanuel got taken to the woodshed over that nonsense and know they will be held accountable by the local press. Tony, you have a lot more info but Capt Qualter’s is starting to bring another Brooklyn term to mind–a schmuck
haha. i guess i should qualify my remarks — they are based on “on the surface” information. i’ve never gotten close enuf to cjq to really know who he is.
Love the yiddish. Integrity, for sure.
Integrity is important in this mishigas.
I LOVE ur articles Mr. Gatto. Very smart-completely logical.
You are too kind.
You can vacation in late August in Southern Indiana. Holiday World, the Lincoln Boyhood National Memorial…. also the Schnitzelbank Restaurant in Jasper and the Overlook Restaurant in Leavenworth on the Ohio River for destination dining.
Also-theres no way, at this point, that I can make any guesses on who will or will not come back. Im so confused right now. Most of my days are now spent thinking of her-and reading anything and everything I can-over and over again. I really just Dont know what to think anymore. The image i cant get out of my head is of her dad at the last press conference. My heart breaks for them every single day. Keep up the good work sir!
I doubt the college community even gives it a ton of thought (unfortunately). She is a student, but..it happened in summer, she lives off campus. There was a current/summer IU student who answered me on a board saying that it’s sort of a non issue (paraphrasing). Probably BECAUSE it feels to most of us to be a known person. Scarier maybe to the average student might have been the assaults/rapes (many on North Jordan near wooded area). That makes everyone uneasy “could be me”. But…this SEEMS to feel to most of us that it’s a known person. Odds are good thats the case. So the kids are going on about their lives. I know my own child, who actually searched with me, really isn’t dwelling on it. I mean, how CAN you? The Spierers obviously have some UNBELIEVABLE support teams who are helping them keep this in the news. Sad that it hasn’t paid off yet. Wish there was more they/we could do. Hope they have a PI. If Roy Spierer is frustrated, and he’s pretty much the center of this nightmare..then we must believe that Robert and Charlene are also not being well informed by the police. SO sad.
Do we know if BPD finished interviewing all the POIs or was that job to enormous and cost to much too?
Has anyone seen this article?
“As for this idea that she was Florence Nightingale and taking him back because she was concerned, she wasn’t in any condition to take care of herself, let alone another human being,” said the source, one of scores of people who have seen the evidence but who was only willing to comment anonymously. “She couldn’t even stand up on her own. I have difficulty with this individual (Rossman) saying he can’t remember anything when he’s the guy who picked her up and took her out of the building.”
This source also says that he saw video of LS and CR leaving SW.
“She comes stumbling out of the elevator, trips several times toward the corner of the lobby, where she comes to rest in the corner of the lobby, falls to her knees and leans against the wall for support until a male companion comes to her aid, gathers her under his arm and escorts out of the front of the building,” the source said. “That whole sequence lasts less than 60 seconds.”
http://www.jconline.com/article/20110721/NEWS/110721014/Lauren-Spierer-appeared-no-condition-help-friend-get-home-source-says?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAG
My perspective as a parent is that this needs to be solved before life can go on as normal there. Primarily for Mr and Mrs S. I can’t find the words to describe how badly I feel for them. On the secondary side; this uncertainty in Btown has this hanging over the campus. How can you walk by Smallwood, Kilroy’s, Kirkwood, etc, etc and not feel haunted? I expect a small uprising if the key POIs return next month. As to your question Tony, who will return? IMO, of the boys none of them if they are listening close to their lawyers. If any of them were brash enough to, I would put my money on ZO.
“hanging over the campus” and “haunted”? What do you think this is Green Gables? People are already moving on and will even more so with recent news.
I’ll play. I’m willing to put $100 on each one of the POIs coming back to school mid August. Especially with everyone directing their anger at the BPD for not giving any details about searching the landfill. Keep the heat on BPD and the POIs will be out drinking at Sports sooner rather than later. It’s not quite as hostile towards them here as you would think; as it’s Friday I can take a few pics of those haunted 18-25 year olds dancing and laughing it up at Sports and Brother’s while I’m out drinking tonight if you’d like? This case is on the verge of falling off the media radar completely unless something BIG happens in the next week or so, Spierers need to make a massive plea to the public or BPD if they hope to keep this media attention up.
I am sure that at least several have much to hide. But in answer to your question as to who is going back, I’m not sure I’d want my child to go back there, even if he was innocent, if he was considered a POI, whether it be in LE’s eyes, or in the court of public opinion. IOW, I’m not sure NOT going back is an admission of guilt.
Did you see the post on WS about how JR was supposed to attend the second session of summer school, but didn’t? (I think I got that right, I admit I get confused with all the initials.)
Keep fighting the good fight!
Oh JR ain’t comin back. I’ll bet the ranch on that one!
So there are how many hundreds of video and still cameras in Smallwood and in the areas in which LS walked that night . . . and BPD has released how many images. Three, counting the two of the truck. I hate to sound paranoid, but they have a reason for not wanting to solve the case, despite the fake pleas for “somebody, anybody to please come forth with a piece of evidence, no matter how small”. . . . It is an absolute joke. Anybody heard the say, a picture is worth a thousand works. BPD has thousands of potentially relevant images they could release to the public, yet they do nothing to circulate them and everything they can to discredit witness like the bar manager, who for some reason is so incompetent that she doesn’t know what time she closes down her establishment at night. Believe me, that is not incompetence on BPD’s part; they are hiding something, and who gives a crap if it makes them appear incompetent. There are worse things than appearing incompetent.
like protecting drug dealers
More likely protecting informants in this town.
Sickening situation. I hate to suggest this, but It seems like the police are afraid they mind find a body before it is decomposed.
…thinking the same thing…if drug dealing is “ignored” by BPD…could be evidence disappears over time and this is why stalling/no addressing of questions…seemingly no further effort…
Agreed, JR will not step foot in Btown! It will be interesting to see if JW comes back since he is a senior. My opinion is that CR, MB, & DR will be back. Did ZO and AA leave for summer? Rumor had it that JW and father went to CR’s apt. for that second confrontation. If that is true, IMO it would not be good for JW & CR to be in the same city
Tony, thanks for the work you put into this case and these “points” that are coming out.
JW graduated.
I have a hard time with this- she was so messed up she was falling down. She was falling against the wall and looking for something to hold on to. She was not drunk…but using cocaine. Cocaine does not make you fall over and not be able to walk or people would not do it to stay up all night and dance and party,etc. Xanex yeah maybe. ….so- if she has done so much xanex she is falling over, she is really going to walk CR home and make sure he is okay? Then on top of that, be able to come out of a messed up falling over status to going to visit JR? I realize all places are close to each other but then on top of that- JR says she walked away fine??
There are so many things that do not add up. Why is there no questioning to these POI and how in the wprld can her family live knowing all this? I would be at their doorsteps daily until they gave me something/ anything. One little piece of the puzzle…but oh wait- they are too concerned with themselves and their lives.
The only other scenario I can think of as to why they wont talk- they know the dealer she went to see (if its possible she was in a state to even do that, I still doubt) maybe they are scared for themselves, friends, or family if they do speak up.
Tony- keep up the good work. Curious to see what comes out when school starts.
Cocaine makes you feel euphoric, and alert. it also makes you extremely revved up and jumpy. therefore the intake of alcohol is greater to try and calm your nerves. the drunkest nights of my life have been when i have used the drug. its scary to wake up from a night of using and heavy drinking, im lucky i did every time. the two are a lethal combination and will eventually kill you. if this is true and she did OD its ashame that she never had the chance to get out of that phase in her life. prayers are with her family
Thanks for shedding light on this. According to the 3:38 witness, LS has said that she was also doing Xanax that night. Would this have contributed to her incoherence?
That is not the 3:38 witness, it’s the source who was familiar with what happened at Kilroy’s. You’re mixing up your TG sources.
ZO is obnoxious enough to return. He’s probably the only one. As far as the investigation, I’m starting to believe the BPD is NOT interested in solving this case. My heart breaks for the Spierers Family.
The BPD has done their best (which is average at best- though what can you really expect from this force?). Has anyone had first hand experience with the BPD? They aren’t professionals, shoot Indiana police are well indianers. They’re simpletons as we like to call them. The can pump their chest and shine their badges and speed around Bloomington acting like their fighting crime, when they haven’t even solved their biggest case nor handled it appropriately. Just another reason not to up funding for joke agencies like them. At the end of the day, it’s “herp derp” back to your nook in southern Indiana to watch WWF or Swamp Loggers.
How about suspending all alcohol and weed ticketing til further notice so those cops can work on the Lauren case.
I’m sure BPD is doing the best they can, and the Spierer’s apparently think so as well. At the same time, keeping the pressure up can only help.
BPD is not NYPD but they are not Barney Fife either. I read early on that a private investigator was also involved. I would be spending big money on top-notch private investigators, former NYPD detectives and people who know how to get answers.
When a situation appears to be a confused mess, it usually is.
At this point, if they wanted, the Spierers could hire a very aggressive criminal lawyer to request (and subsequently demand) an accounting from BPD.
The Governor, the Attorney General, the FBI or some authority should also get to the bottom of the quality of the investigation, to see if things are as disorganized, loose, confused with the BPD as they seem.
IF the Spierers are reassured by BPD somehow all is on track, no need to press…and go for the big guns
Conceivably there could be a lot more going on with the investigation than we bystanders know, but life lessons have taught me to never accept that things are going right when they feel so wrong. Most of the time very direct, simple questions get answers which shock at their lack of going to the heart of the matter and the sooner asked, the better.
All these loose ends need to come together.
All very true. Putting pressure on BPD should not be viewed as anti-police. It is part of the way things work in an open, democratic society. Demanding accountability, from police, government, to the President of the United States and Congress. is a good thing.
Tony, my recent comments have not made it to the page, could you please check? thanks
The Bloomington PD Facebook page no longer displays all the pleas and requests from posters to search the landfills, or at least explain why not.
Several weeks after LS disappered, one of the newspapers had a chart with a breakdown of this group including ZO, AA, AB, and all the rest of the discussed group. It was an interesting chart as it told who was friends with whom. I can’t locate it, and hope one of you good sleuth detectives can. It is informative and will help us get a clearer picture of who is on each side. IIRC, JW is not friends with many of them. Also, who is HT’s boyfriend? Thanks.
no newspaper has named them
are you talking about legal pub?
http://legalpublication.blogspot.com/2011/06/lauren-spierer-disappearance-puzzles.html?commentPage=3
So JW graduated. If he has absolutely no involvement in the disapperance of LS then he should go to the BPD, be a man, and tell everything he knows about this group. Their habits, their party style, the dealer(s), the ins and outs, unload all the secrets he has withheld the time he’s been at IU! Of course his lawyer needs to be there. It would be ideal if the BPD would give him immunity to get this info. Something has to happen to move this case along.
JW is the one that has all the inside personal information on LS. After dating for two years, I am sure he has spent much time at the Spierer home during weekends, summer, and holidays and has shared in the love and nurture at that home full of happiness. JW felt close enough to
Mr. & Mrs. Spierer to make that fateful call to tell them LS was missing, and to fill out the police report.
IMO, Mrs. Spierer’s letter was to JW. He is the only one she knows personally and closely. She is appealing to him that if he knows who has LS, to speak up. She would know JW on a level to write such a letter directly to him. He and LS have shared so much together, IMO, she feels she will eventually reach through him and break the peer hold he feels bound to. Perhaps their lawyer could meet with JW, his lawyer,
and their lawyer could present it another way, in a different llight.
I feel JW could be just as guilty as JR. We need to try to work on the one most responsive, JW is not returning to IU, so BPD go after him to get cleared and off the list, then you have one less to work on. What do you think?