The mother of missing Indiana University student Lauren Spierer released this letter this morning:
July 21, 2011
Our daughter, Lauren, disappeared on June 3, 2011. In the blink of an eye, she disappeared. I truly hope as a parent, you never get that phone call. The feeling is indescribable. Weeks later, the feeling is the same. It’s as if our lives before June 3rd never happened. We are suspended in time. I cannot imagine doing anything other than searching for Lauren until the time we find her and can take her home with us. Some days are paralyzing. As you wake every morning, the nightmare begins again. You cannot give in. You cannot give up hope. Every day you think this could be the day and every day I believe that with all my heart.
Lauren is so much more than a face on a poster. She is Rebecca’s sister. She has grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. She is our daughter. Lauren has friends she adores. Friends she would go the extra mile for. Everyday something reminds me of her. It might be something as small as seeing a sunflower, hearing a song or noticing something I’d love to tell Lauren about. My heart is breaking.
Over the last several weeks, I’ve learned a new language no one should ever have to learn. I now know what things like PLS, POI, recon, ATV and vetting all mean. The word “ transition” is another way of letting me know a change is about to happen that I might not be happy about. I’ve learned to speak while looking into a camera instead of a person’s eyes. I’ve learned that social media is a way to reach a great deal of people in a very short time. I constantly read blogs, check Twitter and Facebook. I’ve learned what it takes to update a website with the latest information about my dear sweet girl. I’ve learned how to suppress my pain. I’ve learned how to keep thoughts of Lauren before June 3 at bay because when they come to the surface it is almost too painful to endure. I’ve learned that you never run out of tears. They are always there, always on the surface, a constant reminder of the ache in my heart. I’ve learned that the world is comprised of many wonderful, kind people. Just waiting to help Rob, Rebecca and me in any way they can.
But outside all that goodness, I’ve learned there lurks an evil, a cruel, heartless element that cares more about themselves than the life of my daughter. That this element of humanity exists in the world is beyond comprehension. Your silence is deafening. Your lack of compassion is irreprehensible. Your lack of respect for another human being which allows you to go day, by day, watching is unimaginable. Everyone is put on this earth for a purpose. Everyone has a defining moment. In the blink of an eye Lauren disappeared. Do not let this be your defining moment. You have no idea what you have taken from us.
My promise to you, we will not rest until we find Lauren. What are you waiting for? You can still do the right thing.
Find Lauren…PO Box 1226…Bloomington, IN 47402-1226.
Lauren, I love you with my heart and soul. We will never give up.
Ever strong, ever determined, ever hopeful,
Charlene Spierer
http://newsonlaurens.blogspot.com/2011/07/day-50-letter-from-charlene.html
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Oh Charlene and Robert…we’re TRYING! We don’t know how to make “them/him/her” talk/confess either! We don’t WANT them to go on with their lives while you may have lost your heart and soul and will to breathe. So many minds working together and we can’t put the puzzle together. Maybe if law enforcement put the details “out there”? But, we also don’t want that to hurt the case and have some heinous crime lost in “the system” like the justice that didn’t happen for Caylee Anthony. We’re WITH you. We will all help with anything we can. How can we ‘touch’ the person who has the answer? Since you’re asking for answers, it makes me/us feel that YOU probably know more than we/the public do. But I’m betting LE knows even more than they’re telling YOU. And that can’t be fair. I don’t understand it. We can’t keep pressure on the POIs if they’ve run out of town. They’ll not respond to police because they don’t HAVE to. Their attorneys tell them to lie low. They’ll transfer colleges and very few of their fellow students will have ANY idea of their possible involvement in this scenario. Their future employers and wives will not know they were once nearly caught in an (at least) irresponsible (or, at worst heinous) act. Surely, even a good “friend” of someone involved in something like this can’t live forever while the Telltale heart keeps beating under their floor. They HAVE to tell what they know, in order to get on with their life. Surely fate will increase the guilt until they can’t take it anymore. At least…I hope. There but for the Grace of God go SO many of us IU parents and students. If you could lean on us, we’d let you. But we know there is nothing we can do to HELP, except keep trying to figure this horror out, so that at least justice might be served, and you might find some rest, some peace.
Well if their future spouses, work partners, whomever are that lame not to google the person’s name prior to engaging in a relationship then your statement is correct. Otherwise, their reputations are pretty much forever damaged. Well not in Michigan anyway, because they don’t run bad stories on rich folks.
The more i read about LS the more LS reminds me of a girl i knew in college. Always had drugs, always ready for a good time. Great person but definitely everyone knew she had an issue. She just did not know how to say enough. Being a popular guy, would I have done the same thing back then as what the Spierer mother believes POI are doing now? I don’t know. I probably would have looked for help because she was a friend, but in a 20′s state of mind…who knows.
I do know that as I grew older, moved away from drugs and became a success involvement in such an action would grow on me. The defining moment when the memory would hit its apex would be when i have kids. Looking at your offspring and knowing someone else could never see the end of theirs because of you. The human is a complex network in which any input can cause something to occur you would not expect to occur. Imagine that. Would you tell your wife, your kids, a confidant 10-15 years after the fact? How could you not with that truth eating at you. We are humane by nature. In the end, its speak up or die a wretch. If choosing to wait but then speak, would your loved ones turn you in? Could your own kids disown you over such a horrible act? I’m not sure what is worse. A few years of jail or a life of humility where ones that gave you a vow want nothing more to do with you.
In reference to what is occurring, I bet those POI parents are proud. I bet they can go out everyday with their head held high. My questions to them. How do you feel about that investment you made on prep schools, private tutoring, out of state colleges just to have a group of underachieving druggies on your hand? Do other parents treat you differently right now? Have all those calls you made for special favors paid off (e.g., Michigan media holding on to stories)? What are your plans for restoring your boys’ image or are you just gonna give up on them?
To the POI, thank your parents for providing for you, give them a hug, at least show some damn gratitude for what they provided. Whether or not you know the location of LS, you should be ashamed for treating your parents like garbage with this behavior of drug use and hedonistic behavior. You are an insult to a family that provided opportunity. Take a long look at your own mother and think about it.
to me it almost sounds like they know who did it but can do nothing about it until the “who did it” speaks. Her language has suggested that to me for a while now, there is never any mention of the BPD, landfill search or any other ideas we all come up with here on this site, she always comes accross as speak up and tell us. And that would be a good reason why we have not heard much from the BPD about this they can not do anything til they get a confession.
I’m tempted to agree. And they probably were told around the time of the ‘white truck release’. Up until that press conference the Spierer’s seemed sad, but hopeful. They seemed noticeably uncomfortable during that press conference though, and the demeanor was different from then on. I can not even imagine what they must feel like every day since. That’s the worst thing that can happen to a parent.
im not going back to the white truck theory but just in case i missed it….did the BPD ever mention who the truck belonged to? out of all the pleas to the community for help locating it i would think they would at least announce “ok we found out the truck is owned by ???construction company from ??city, ??state. All i ever heard was it checked out?.. Maybe i just missed the announcement. I am starting to second guess everything about this case.
YES YES YES.
You are giving BPD more credit then they deserve. There has not been any shred of evidence BPD knows what they are doing. Took Behrman 3 years to be found.
To whomever is involved…this is NOT a video game or CGI or online. This is real life. And you are not being asked to point a finger at someone who peed in a parking garage, or used a fake ID, or even did drugs. You are telling whatever minor details you might know aobut a night that might have ended in a possible murderer! It could be YOUR “friend”. Do you even want to continue to have near you…a person who might cause YOU harm later on!? Life is obviously not very dear to this person.
Now, I think most of us instead think it’s probably just some horrific accident instead. And that happens. Now you’re scared because you made bad decisions early that night. Understandable. You’re scared because some one or more of you made an irrational, petrified, drug induced decision later in the night…that you don’t know how you can reverse…so you think you can just ignore and it and it will fade and get better and better for you until it disappears. Charlene is telilng you NOT to expect that to happen. There is a large contingent unwilling to let this just slide into oblivion. Take your medicine, explain how you weren’t guilty…you were just there, and “it” happened. Don’t you feel a jury will be MUCH MUCH more inclined to feel magnanimous towards a scared boy who acted without guidance, but then confessed and showed he DOES have a heart…..than to a boy who waited to be CAUGHT, denying his involvement all the way? Lying. Hurting SO many people…JUST so his life could be easier. When, in fact, if an accident happened and you’d called 911…you’d have some tough days, but…it WOULD eventually be “cleared up” and you’d go on without this unbelievable weight on your shoulders. The sooner YOU talk, instead of being FOUND OUT..the lighter that load will be.
Very, very well said…And now with the video evidence of Lauren stumbling around in the Smallwood lobby we can assume as fact that there was no way she was capable of walking home at 4:30AM. Any substance abuse professional will tell you the facts, that someone in that condition does not straighten up in an hour. It takes time for the substance to work through ones system, as the term “sleep it off” is a viable cure, and takes hours and hours.
The video evidence proves Lauren was ready to pass out and CR had other intentions for bringing her back to his place…so he is misleading.
There is no way Lauren would have been able to walk out of the building on her own, in her condition in that short amount of time. Safe to say that JR is full of sh*t up to his ears, and the rest is Canary piss.
Appeal to America’s Most Wanted with this letter. Ask them to stay on this. I think they will IF they realize what has gone on with the “friends” who are hiding.
Prayers for everything the Spierer family needs to get through this and come out on the other side soon…
I don’t even know where to begin except to say Mrs. Spierer’s letter was one of the most heart-wrenching and well-written pieces that I have read in a very long time. Having said that, it is the type of letter that should have to be written.
Although I know the devastating, permanent loss and constant ache that comes with the loss of someone so vibrant, I cannot begin to imagine the horror of not being able to know what happened, and by whom. That he/she/those involved could be someone that knows Lauren, and has chosen to remain silent is incomprehensible. That the authorities cannot / perhaps have not done EVERYTHING within their power to solve this is unthinkable. Surely this is not the case…
That anyone involved in the actual act of Lauren’s disappearance can possibly think that future colleges / universities (if applicable); employers; potential partners will not find out about his / her involvement? Dream on, folks … This is the era of instant information, and everything you say, post, blog, email, write is available – most, very easy to retrieve. And don’t think employer human resource departments aren’t savvy. You are screwed – and will remain that way for the rest of your lives.
While this does absolutely nothing to comfort the Spierer family and friends, there will be justice. I simply pray that Lauren is found, and is able to be taken home by those who have loved her always.
This looks like it was a girl that drank and did drugs to an extreme. She most likely overdosed and someone got scarred and dispossed of her body. No one is speaking in fear of getting in trouble because of their drug issues etc.
Sad but this case may never be solved and the only way that anyone will come forward with the truth is if they are assured that nothing will happen to them legally.
I also think that her boyfriend may have been resposible for her disappearance. Why was Lauren with another guy so late at night if she was in a relationship with someone else? Sounds like Lauren caused a lot of her own problems that night with her bad judgement and bad behavior.
Blame the victim much?
We don’t know what happened; we don’t know what drugs she WILLINGLY consumed NOR do we know if her judgement was compromised by drugs or alcohol or another person, NOR do we know why her friends did not protect her NOR do we know why none of them is talking.
It is more than peculiar how a whole group of young adults have selfishly circled the wagons to hide their own complicity in the midst of so much pain, tragedy, loss, sufferiing…
I will second all this.
When I said I would second a post, I meant JD’s
Kay,
You write:
‘Sounds like Lauren caused a lot of her own problems that night with her bad judgement and bad behavior.’
Ordinarily I don’t think such a thoughtless comment deserves a response. But since you read Mrs. Spierers’ statement and THEN wrote this in response to her (and note she says in it that she is reading the blogs), I think it is appropriate to assert that your statement is cruel and heartless. It is this sort of attitude that is no doubt motivating anyone who knows what happened to Lauren to remain silent. (‘Why does my life have to be ruined just because of this drunk girl?’)
You might also take a few courses in grammar, spelling, and logic.
(What’s the conclusion of your argument? ‘She caused many of her own problems’; therefore, what? ‘No member of the family of a person who dies as a result of her own behaviour deserves our help’? Or: ‘No action we would take to find Lauren and relieve the family’s suffering will ever result in the permanent disappearance from the face of the planet of drunken irresponsible behaviour; therefore, we shouldn’t do anything to help.’ ??)
On second thought, nevermind; I don’t want to know what your thought processes are.
Kay,
Are you a parent of a POI or perhaps a POI? Has Lauren Spierer’s disappearance put your family in crisis mode? You have such a heartless response that I’m wondering why you are interested enough in this case to be on Tony’s web-site following it.
Let me stop you right there. All Kay said is that whatever LS did that night may have contributed to bad things happening to her. She did not go any further. You are unfairly adding to what her remarks are. And I agree with her. You can’t close your eyes to the overwhelming information that LS was effed-up on alcohol and a number of drugs and all the information says this is what she regularly did. It’s not saying she deserves what she got or anything like that. If you want to close your eyes to the facts you don’t want to accept — that’s your problem. My mission is the truth, the WHOLE truth and nothing but the truth. And most of all — don’t tell readers of my blog whether they are worthy of reading it. That’s not your place.
Well I’ll say something to this poster, and to this exact sentence; (Why was Lauren with another guy so late at night if she was in a relationship with someone else?)
I have had girlfriends who have had male friends and did go out and party with them and never once did I think, or did any of my friends, that that was a wrong thing to do. Nor did I ever call one of them to make sure they were not out bopping one of her male friends. You sound like you live in a world of controlled relationships where everyone is a threat. Lauren is 20yrs old and NOT married, free to socialize with whom ever she chooses, and does not deserve to end up missing because of it. Who ever did such a thing to Lauren is the real psycho and deserving of all the hate they will receive, for the rest of their lives.
Reading this makes me feel great shame and great anger. Shame, because I am sitting here in air-conditioned comfort reading the expressions of absolute torment of a fellow human being; anger because of the silence of the person(s) who knows where Lauren is.
It strikes me that, in their public statements regarding this silence, the Spierers have had to walk a very narrow line. Mr.Spierer’s previous plea to the parents of those who have obtained lawyers to ‘help them find their moral compass’ struck me as addressed as much at the parents as at their offspring (I won’t call them children). But they can’t risk angering the parents either.
I wonder how long it will be before the friends of the family and the citizens of the community make a YouTube video. (I can imagine different people getting up and reading a short statement, each one beginning, ‘I want to know…’). Perform it on the courthouse steps too.
Whatever happens, I ABSOLUTELY believe this incredibly strong woman when she says that she and her husband and Lauren’s sister are not going to allow Lauren’s disappearance fade from the public’s consciousness until Lauren is found.
I know next to nothing about the law in such matters, but if an inquest was called (even in the absence of a body), can witnesses be compelled to testify? (No one is charged with a crime in an inquest).
The real world works in a much different way than what Mrs. Spierer contemplates in her letter. Adams Smith’s “Invisible Hand” works not only in economic theory, but in matters of this type, also. This time-tested theory shows that all act according to their own needs, and Mrs. Sperier’s wish for the implication of one’s self in a crime runs contrary to the theory.
I suspect that Mrs. Sperier knows this, and submits her letter to mainly assist in keeping the case alive, and not necessarily expecting that a person will have a Come-To-Jesus moment.
Mrs. Sperier is not in a position whereby she can criticize the BPD, even a little bit, and we must accept this, although I do hope she is quietly prodding them to check landfills, and to arrest ZO for the battery in order to apply pressure to find out what else he knows, or, even, what he has heard.
I also hope that the Speriers have hired their own private investigator, and that person is diligently on the case.
It was an excellent letter, compelling in its observations, and comment-provoking. But I fear that it is not the hefty hammer necessary to break through this shell of silence.
However, hope springs eternal…
You are so very right. It is futile — although noble — to think her words will have a POI come forward. And I have said from the beginning — they have to support the BPD. You don’t choose where a potential crime is going to happen — you are beholden to the authorities of the jurisdiction. If they were to truly believe that BPD was not doing a good job or covering-up — the only way to pull the trigger is in a big way — holding a news conf outside of the police, blasting them with specifics and calling for the FBI to take over. But I can understand why, no matter what they think, it is nearly impossible for them to do that.
Consciously or otherwise, the Spierers have given powerful signals about who they believe is responsible, through these messages. This in turn has increased pressure on the BPD.
Also if you’ll forgive me, OWO, your reading of Adam Smith is off:
“Howsoever selfish a man may be supposed, there are evidently some principles in his nature, which interest him in the fortune of others, and render their happiness necessary to him, though he derives nothing from it except the pleasure of seeing it.” ~ Adam Smith, Theory of Moral Sentiments
I’m going to take a laissez-faire attitude on this Adam Smith stuff.
Thank you. Theory of moral sentiments is something the business colleges and high school overlook in favor of wealth. It is clear in Smith’s writings he has and underlying moral code. Its not about greed as too many uneducated pundits attempt to make it out to be.
Tony,
Forgive me for the following response, because it may appear that i seek to hijack your blog, and I assure you that i do not. This shall be my last word on the matter.
To z & notachance,
It is interesting that you rush in with your ‘Theory of Moral Sentiments’, while turning a blind eye to Smith’s ‘Wealth of Nations’ wherein he clearly states: “[H]e intends only his own security; and by directing that industry in such a manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention. Nor is it always the worse for the society that it was not part of it. By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it.”
You state “Also if you’ll forgive me,” and while I do forgive your obvious misreading of the man, I am sorry to say that Mr. Smith probably would not.
Taking both works I read this as the invisible hand encapsulating “fortune of others”. The invisible hand is innate. The person may be hedonistic but the invisible hand is what guides. Both works are taken together.
I appreciate your thoughts, OWO. It’s not often a commenter brings in the great works of the past!
What ever happened to the report that there was a SECOND confrontation early that morning at the CR/JR building. It never stated who was involved and it quickly disappeared from the media. Tony I know you have mentioned before that you know nothing about this – but I think it would warrant some investigation.
Also, Tony, do you know if JW has layered up?
lawyered up
For the sake of variety could we all stop using this worn-out crime novel “lawyered up” trope; retained counsel, hired an attorney, hired a lawyer, obtained representation, hired a lawyer, sought legal protection, all work fine and don’t make the writer sound like an amateur armchair dick.
Don’t like the term, never use it, and am appalled when MSM does. It’s a right granted each American.
Or even “Does Joe Blow have an attorney?”
@wipeout – get a life, I asked Tony a question, I didn’t ask for your opinion
Your silence is deafening.
I wonder what back channel discussions are going on? I would think the pressure would be pretty strong from various angles apart from what we all see in the media. Like for example any parents or community leaders who sympathize with the Spierers (like I do) and who might know the POI parents or POIs themselves (I don’t) and can talk to them personally and rationally. At least those who are innocent might aquiesce to clear their own names, and provide vital information at the same time. Perhaps this is already occurring, but I know if the POI’s were in my community (they’re not) there would be a lot of pressure on them from friends, acquaintances, family, etc.
Do you have any community activists in Bloomington?
No, wish I did. But I was thinking more of their hometowns – suburbs in Indy, Detroit, NY area, Boston I think?
PLS = Point Last Seen
POI = Person of interest
ATV = ???? Average Time Viewing maybe?
Can anyone shed light on that for me?
the most common meaning of atv is all terrain vehicle. perhaps they were used in searches. i’m pretty good with cop talk — and have never heard atv.
Copy that. I don’t speak police, and I thought it might have a different meaning I haven’t heard.
4-wheelers were mentioned in connection to the Martinsville search, that was my initial thought on ATV.
I have no clue if this is correct, but from a Google suggestion: Advanced Technology Video.
Every time the Spierers release a statement, I feel it’s very clear they know someone is lying. They might not know what happened, but the absolutely know at least one person is directly lying, and that is surely supported by video / statements.
Just need that first domino to topple.
If the FBI still involved? If they aren’t, I think that strongly suggests there’s no evidence she was every taken from Indiana. I think if the random abduction angle was still in play, the FBI would at least have a hand in the investigation.
As inept as the BPD looks on the PR front, I have to believe they’ve painted a picture they’re fully invested in, and are waiting for the chips to fall. I hope it’s right. I hope answers are forthcoming. I’m sure there may never be closure for her family, but not knowing must be torture.
I know first hand how it feels to do the right thing for someone in Lauren’s situation when they need help. The next day, you may be embarrassed of how the situation developed, but your able to hold your head high, and look people in the eye. If you tuck your tail and run home to mommy and daddy, you might not admit to a crime, just that you’re a coward. And cowards die many times before their death.
It’s never too late to do the right thing–doing the right thing is how we live with ourselves. That’s just a rule for life.
Whomever has information for the Spierers should step forward and spill it all. They will never regret it, and having done so they can start over with a clean slate and not have to look over their shoulders any longer.
just a guess—- you have summed up my thoughts and feelings exactly.
TO Charlene— If you do read the blogs, like you say in your letter—– I want you to know we are not going to stop looking for your daughter. We will not forget. We will help you anyway we can. If it’s donating to IU’s Hillel, going out on more searches, buying head bands of hope, brainstorming on the blogs or tweeting to keep Lauren on people minds. We will keep pressuring the POI, the BPD and the media. Let us know what you need. We will help. As a parent of a former IU student we will continue to support you until Lauren comes home. Sending you hugs and strength for another day.
Any lawyers out there care to respond? If this latest bit of information holds true, and it goes against CR, MB, and JR’s original statements that shows they are lying, I think that would be enough to book one of them. I don’t see why not. “Providing insufficient information on purpose concerning the events that lead to a person under your presence who has become missing.”
Tony—other blogs keep talking about a ping heard in Martinsville at 4am on the morning Lauren disappeared from JR’s phone. Some are speculating that this is the reason for the searches in that area last month. Have you heard anything about JR’s phone pinging a cell tower in Martinsville?
i read the same thing on the same blog. nothing on it.
Is Charlene Spierer targeting a specific person or persons? The problem with this general accusation is that there are POIs out there who are innocent of all but acting foolishly that morning who are under clouds of suspicion. It would be nice if we knew who the Spierers suspect is holding back on pertinent information. They have not said anything about any of the POIs being cooperative; they have not thanked anyone specifically. JW is having a very rough time of it and remains in limbo. Is it true that he has cooperated fully and are the Spierers appreciative of his giving the alarm of their daughter being missing and for his cooperation? Or do they think he is involved? What about the other young men mentioned? Is it JR that bothers the police and the Spierers and is it because he won’t tell what activities were going on before LS left at 4:30, or because they suspect he is lying, and have reason to believe so, other than that it seems unlikely that she did?
Strictly interpreted, she is not accusing the POIs of anything here. She is accusing whoever is responsible for keeping the secret of where Lauren is. What the Spierers and everyone else is in a position to know with certainty is that *someone* knows where she is and is not telling. Of course if you link this statement with her past complaint regarding the failure of Lauren’s friends to come forward, you can read more into what she says here.
I am interpreting it in the context of earlier statements as there has been no acknowledgement that the situation was remedied. As gracious as the Spierers have been about the volunteers who have searched for Lauren, the well wishers and others, including the BPD, they have not thanked Lauren’s friends, roommates and anyone who might have come forward with information, including the boyfriend.
According to google maps I am 695 miles from Smallwood Apartments, never been to Indiana, maybe know one IU student my whole life. But everytime I see a white truck drive down the street that has those squared off wheel wells I can’t help but look at the tags of the vehicle. Every day until this poor girl is found I will continue to do the same. THAT TRUCK HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. I will not believe otherwise until the owner gets in front of a camera, talks to a reporter, and grabs their 15 minutes of fame. Innocent people do this.
How about putting up billboards of Lauren as close as possible to the POIs homes in their hometowns?
I agree, if they have to see her face evety day maybe someone will crack and come forward..
Kay—-I don’t care if she drank or did drugs that night, that doesn’t excuse the behavior of her “friends”. As an undergrad all of my friends and I had a system, under NO circumstance would we leave one of our friends on her own!
Charlene,
I am so sorry for all that you and your family are going through. I pray every day that you will have answers and peace. I don’t know whether you’ve read recently about Maria Ridulph, a 7yr old girl from Sycamore IL, who went missing 54 years ago. They recently uncovered evidence to charge a “suspect” (a local police officer) in the case. I wholeheartedly believe that eventually you will know what happened to Lauren and I doubt it will take that long. Often people who have these kinds of terrible secrets reveal them when their own life circumstances change and they have no control, when they bargain with God for their health or that of someone they love.
Tony, I’m really confused by the new information that got leaked out this morning in the Indianapolis Star. I thought BPD initially said the altercation took place outside the building? Now it turns out that it took place on the 2d floor? Also, there was another man with LS and CR who helped LS up as she was leaving? And CR’s lawyer says it “might have been a case of the walking wounded helping each other?” Why not just get helped home by the other man?
cops never said it was outside. my info is it happened on the fifth floor lobby
Suppose the person who “disappeared” Lauren is a known drug-dealer connected to a bigger durg network (they usually are) and that he/they put out the word that anyone who talks to the police or the Spierers will be hunted down like a dog and “disappeared” also. That makes it so much more frightening for anyone who knows anything to step forward. I’m sure they won’t have protection after telling what they know. If this little theory is just the musings of someone who has has watched too many movies, then there is little excuse for the POI’s to hide what happened from this beleagured family.
The person who does opt to do the right thing will be treated much more kindly than the others who refuse to tell, now and forever. HIS or HER name and their family’s name will forever be connected with honorable motives in this case when people in the future google them. If I were a parent who is at all internet-savvy, I would realize what lies in store for my child if the truth continues to be concealed. If I were an employer in these difficult times, one of the first things I would do is research the applicant on-line before hiring them. Ditto for future marriage partner, etc.
I wish this could be a lesson for young adults that its important to use alcohol more thoughtfully-It does feel good to many of us and helps us to socialize and have more uninhibited fun. But too much does impair your judgement-from driving, getting in the car with someone else whos drunk, taking drugs, sex. There was a very handsome, intelligent young man who was drinking and afraid of the authorities because he had too many mips, and tried to flee from them. He hid under a bus at a hockey game- and the bus took off not knowing he was under it. It was a huge loss to his family and community. So please remember to use it wisely. There are some drugs you should never use- because they will not only kill your brain cells but you may never be able to get off them.
And ultimately it is your resposibility to take care of yourself. And if you screw up it can be forever.
So we can blame her friends for not going with her that night but maybe they were doing homework for a class. And so they were being responsible for themself and if that is the case they should not feel guilty. Maybe they were done taking care of her when she partied to heavy-lots of girls tell their friends i’m going to get wasted tonight so their friends have to stay sober to take care of them. We can blame Jay Rosenbaum because he sounds like he was sober enough to notice she was wasted- He shouldnt have let her go. But utimately Lauren did make a huge mistake.
And I dont even believe that after leaving smallwood she went from place to place by herself in that cond. after the recent video leak- I think something happened on the way to Coreys and eveyone is just covering up and it’s likely that zach oakes and whoever he is with is involved too.
And to the guy with all the questions about the truck yeah I think the same. Whats with the innocent truck????
LE cleared the white truck sometime around June 20th or so. (don’t recall the exact date). Construction guy said he was picking up a co-worker or friend. It does seem oddly suspicious still, but let’s keep the faith that LE has this under control. (fingers crossed). I can’t imagine if the white truck is cleared and we later find out in fact it somehow was involved. Could it be another similar truck? What are the odds on that happening to be in the same area at the same time and getting mixed in? That’s crazy. But if LE blows the truck incident and it is linked, well, I would not want to be part of BPD. Plus, the Spierer family would likely sue the s___ out of them and it would not be pretty. Having said that, could that be why BPD has been very quiet about this case?
(Suppose the person who “disappeared” Lauren is a known drug-dealer connected to a bigger durg network (they usually are) and that he/they put out the word that anyone who talks to the police or the Spierers will be hunted down like a dog and “disappeared” also.)
This is exactly the reason they should come forward if that is the case…because they (drug dealer) will wait till this thing dies down and eventually go after the ones who know anyway…no loose ends. With all the publicity that is present in this case who ever comes forward will be protected for life, even if a bolt of lightning strikes them down there will be an investigation. Something such dealers will not want. With people like John Walsh (and the rest of the press and public) involved there is no way of getting away with disappearing a witness.
Stay silent and you chances are much higher that a few years later your breaks will go out on a winding road one night, or a hit and run. Come forward now and get as much publicity as possible and not a thing will happen…
…If that is the reason of their silence.
I just watched the last hour or so of the (A?) Natalie Holloway movie. It’s amazing how similar this is. The entire situation. Georgeous blonde girl, probably drinking, possible drugs. The Mother’s resolve. The lies by the perpetrator. The misdirection. The possible mistakes by police. The only thing different is that Bloomington has embraced the Spierers, whereas Aruba seemed to really want Natalie’s Mom to GET OUT/go home. No body, so no one still REALLY knows the entire truth of course. But..time told a tale. That…and an INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER in the Netherlands, and the Private Detective (?) he hired. I don’t know the real title. But he got a taped confession of sorts. True or not. What happened? THAT “alleged” perpetrator went on to be involved in another … “accident”.
Big difference is that Lauren was with “friends”.
And Van der Sloot (or whatever his name) is likely a multiple rapist/murderer.
What we seem to have here are a bunch of selfish, mean, very weak, sneaky, spoiled druggie brats aided and abetted by their parents, who think they ride above the laws of society–before, during and after Lauren’s disappearance.
This WILL NOT stand. It just will not.
Yes, Van der sloot crazy, to be sure. But..they’d just met. These “friends” were new to LS too. And, Van der sloot also had 2 other boys with him. I just see larger numbers of boys with one girl and boys who seem to feel their “privilege” means that rules/laws don’t apply to them (as you said). And, we don’t KNOW yet…that any of these boys aren’t also “rapists/murders”. And Van der sloot met your definittion of “selfish, mean, weak, sneaky, spoiled, druggie brat aided by parents. To a “T”!
And, yeah..just commenting. It was kind of hard to watch. I saw what the Mom supposedly went through, her resolve, I put myself in both her and Charlene’s place and it’s just … SO sick! All of it.
Indiana State Police? FBI?